Aug. 12, 2025
Emergency Management & PAINFUL LAUGHTER

Regional Emergency Management Coordinator Lauren Sanchez talks about her deployment to Kerr County for flood relief, her role as planning Director for the Dallas 911 Memorial stair climb, and LOTS OF LAUGHS about how to feed predators at the zoo, radio active wasps, and MORE!
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Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
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part of the tree Al podcast network. On today's show,
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we're gonna be talking about stair climbing, not just stair climbing.
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I am not the stair climber no, yeah, but we
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did have the Master's stair Climber on not that long ago.
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We're gonna touch on stair climbing again. I understand that
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we've got a zoo in Denmark has a special request
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they do, and who knows what else we might might
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find ourselves talking about today. Steve here co host for
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today Detective Courtie's Hadley Groad to be here. Guys, thank you,
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and we've got the beautiful, lovely Karen as our co
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host today. There you go, and we've got one guest
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joining us in the studio, a returning guest all the
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way back to episode number nine that The Dark Ages.
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We've got Lauren Sanchez.
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Welcome Lauren, thanks for having me back.
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And and you know what.
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I didn't he mentioned how you like? You're not beautiful,
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You're just Lauren.
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Yeah, no, not beautiful, just Lauren. It's fine. We go
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way back.
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Wait, we can't compliment each other. We're co workers, Karen, No,
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I was loud.
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That's dressing up.
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Wow.
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Shots fired. I'm sorry, Laura.
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Keep him away from me.
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Wow. He prefers to sit down here, because Actuallylauren, you're
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on the fire side of things.
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Yes, I am.
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Yeah, I gotta, I gotta keep it, keep the officer,
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keep the PD guy down here, fire over here now, Lauren, Actually,
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what what is your title?
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Do you want to make one up for me? I
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can tell you the real one.
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Let's go with your real one now and then we'll
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we we can break off into that story.
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So I am the regional Emergency Management Coordinator.
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Regional Emergency Management coordinator. Yes, you coordinate emergencies.
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Yes, brand them, execute them, plan and execute emergency and
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fire something to do.
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Okay, Yeah, now that's uh. And I think we established
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way back on episode number nine that Lauren is the
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person responsible for great emergencies at two am on Sunday
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mornings that we always have to respond to.
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Absolutely catch you off guard.
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No, we're kidding. If my bosses are watching, that's not
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it's not actually chief, I'm really sorry.
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Not true, and we we joke about that. Obviously, you're
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on to two major emergencies and so forth. And actually
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you were supposed to come on the show. A couple
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of weeks ago, we had we had the Staremaster Steve Coin.
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Steve came on the actually was a guest and came
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in the studio. He does a lot of these Stare
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climb to around the country to memorialize those we lost.
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And during the September the eleventh attacks. Steve, of course,
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is a transplant from Chicago, PD New works for an
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agency here in North Texas. The Lauren you were supposed
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to be on that that same show with Steve. You
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couldn't make it. Why could you not make it? You
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know what? Why did you back out on us?
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That?
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No?
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No, no, let me say this. I was very excited
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for that episode.
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I wanted to be here to thank him for climbing
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in the Dallas Climb and you know, tell him tell
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the public a little more about it. But I also
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wanted to hear his stories. But a few days before
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I sent you a text and said, hey, friend, I'm
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so sorry. I'm not backing out, but I've been asked
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by the State of Texas to go down to kirk
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count Me to help post flood event.
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And so that is what I did.
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You know, that's a pretty good excuse.
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Thank you for doing that.
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It helps. I really didn't once she sent that message
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and Mike, I.
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Geah, you can't. I got can't rebuttle with all your life, Yes, ma'am.
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The mean response he had written, yeah, he's like, okay,
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be safe.
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Talco later sends yeah the uh. But so tell us
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a little a little bit about what it was. What
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it was like down there. I mean, obviously is horrible
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flooding down in the Curvel area and all along the
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river there affected you know, quite a few cities through there,
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but just a horrible, horrible event that happened. But what
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was it like to actually be down there and and
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see everything, you know, and even to even take that
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a little bit further. You were from that area, so
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you know what it normally looks like.
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Yes, it's true.
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So when I saw the event unfold late July or
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early sorry, late night July third, early morning July fourth,
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it hit home pretty I've gone on other deployments with
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the state, the first one being to North Carolina for
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a flood event, so in my mind I kind of
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had an idea of what to expect, but being from
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Bernie graduated from Bernie High School in the Hill Country
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is very near and dear to my heart. When I
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got the opportunity to go deploy, and it's tough with deployments.
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You guys understand you want.
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To go help, so you look forward to it, but
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then you realize what you're going down there to do,
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so you feel terrible for want for looking forward to
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go to do that. So you tell yourself that you're
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going down there to do some good and to help
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people on their worst day. So I was grateful for
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the opportunity to do that, and so I got chosen
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when I put in on the rostering request to go
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down there and help, not with the search efforts that
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were unfolding. I give I will hug every single person
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that was down there searching in the river.
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That would be extremely hard.
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I couldn't do that, So I was more on the
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back end helping with the support for the families and
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anyone that was impacted in a couple different capacities. So
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when I got down there, it was hard to see.
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Like I said, with North Carolina, I had seen flood
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damage and that was pretty widespread, but a lot more
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localized than what I saw down in the Texas hill
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country was so big, and seeing those trees and seeing
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debris parts of boats right come thirty feet up into
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a tree, and you're driving past it every day to
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go to these small towns to sit with their leadership
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and sit with their first responders and kind of help
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them through this, but you're driving past it every day.
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So the first day that I was down there and
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driving to one of those towns and looking along the
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river the entire time, and it hit me and I
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started getting emotional. And as I was driving, I was like,
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it's okay, I'm crying, but I can see well enough
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to still drive and get there safely.
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So we're going to do it.
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And right you just let it out because you're like,
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I'm going to be here for the next twelve days,
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So let the tears out now, and let me accept
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the devastation that's happening here. But I still need to
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do good. And so luckily was able to push through
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it and help some people where they needed help. So
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I was glad. I was glad to be down there.
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Towards the end of the deployment, it was twelve days total,
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I was ready to get home. A lot of people
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were asked if they could stay longer, and a lot
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of them accepted that. I didn't had to come back
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for work because work pauses here, but I had to
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come back and do my day's job. But even just
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the emotional toll of it, I was ready by about
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day ten to come back home and take a break
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from all of that.
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Yeah, I could only I could only imagine, and I
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you know, again, we're incredibly thankful for any first responders
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or anybody whether it's youre a first responder or just
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a volunteer, you know, with a different background that was
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down there helping out. Yeah, definitely thank you for helping
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out those families and those who continue to help out
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those families.
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Yeah, they're still down there putting in great work.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's just that's amazing. And what
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are calling you know, the guys step up, Guys and
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gals step up whenever we have a situation like that
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in Texas, and Texas really comes together and handles her
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own when it comes to situations like that.
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Yeah, they do. There was a lot of people there.
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No, it's good. There was something else that you you do, Lauren,
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you you're involved, and we we kind of let onto
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this earlier. You're involved in the planning of our Dallas
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nine to eleven memorial stair cloud.
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I am. I got a talked into being the director
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this year.
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So much for involved you. Yeah, yeah, up to your neck.
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Yeah, I've always loved the climb.
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I've been a part of a fire department for the
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last eight years, almost nine years now in DFW, and
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so when I heard they're.
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Not gonna hold out against you, by the way.
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About what, oh probably were past that.
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No, never, it's a deep wound. It really is.
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Well I'm glad you embraced the mustache part of it.
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I've really tried.
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If you look really closely, go ahead and zoom in
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on this video.
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Yeah, I've been really working on it. Thank you for them,
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Thank you so much.
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And see, I wish I would have put a fake
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one on. That would have been hilarious. Well after the break,
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stay tuned.
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We shall exactly and I shall continue to keep you
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two separated.
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Yeah, and I will wear it at the climb. So
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come out at the climb with me and then may
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we all have one on. But I've always loved the climb.
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I would go cheer everybody on, police included we're friends too,
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and so after a couple of years, I wanted to
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get involved. And so a chief of mine who has
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since retired, found out that he was a part of
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the planning committee and I said, hey, Chief, I want
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to get involved. Maybe day of volunteer. Let me just
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show up on the day of tell me what to do.
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I would love to help. And he said, well, you
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should join our planning committee. And before he explained what
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a commitment that is, I said, sounds great. And so
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that was four years ago, and every year that same
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chief has come to me and said, well, now there's
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a higher up position that's open and I really need
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your help.
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And so I just kept moving up, moving up.
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I was the ops director for two years and then
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he said, you know, I'm going to actually retire now
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and step back from.
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This and you should be the event director.
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And I was like, well, you know what I've gotten
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this far with just saying yes to everything that you
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tell me.
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So careful with that in your professional career at the
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volunteering that's great, but oh my god, you got to
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learn to say no.
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It's hard too.
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Sometimes Yeah I don't so no one, Please don't call.
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Me so and again the nine to eleven memorials stare climb.
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That that is first responders, correct, Lison fired. They are climbing.
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How many stories? How many flights? Is there?
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One hundred and ten floors and so that is the
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height of the world Trade centers.
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Okay, and this is to memorialize as we lost on
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September the eleventh. They're in the terror attacks. They're in
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New York City, correct, And these events. Steve was telling
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us when he was on Steve Coin that these events
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happen in a lot of different cities. I think Chicago
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has one. I think four or started one now they did.
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Yeah, So we have an association of stare climes. Anyone
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can start a stair climb. We have an association right
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in public safety. We like to formalize things for a
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lot of different reasons, and so we have a formal
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National Association of stare Climes just kind of brings everyone together,
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standardizes everything.
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You'll have a Staremaster, we we.
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We should call them that. That would be a great name.
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I'm going to talk to them about that on our
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